Saint Rantic

May 19, 2006

Before you shout!

Filed under: secularism, Reservations — laks @ 2:09 am

Dear Reservation Protestor,

I whole heartedly agree to your frustration and completely disagree with the reservation policies. I agree that our government has destroyed democracy in all its forms and also introduced ethnic fundamentalism between the predominantly Aryan “Upper Castes” and the predominantly dravidian “Lower Caste”.

I only have a few questions, and I would love to join you with all the spirit if I get a well justified answer.

What difference does it make to a homeless person out there if there was 30% reservations or 50 % reservations?

If the pie grows bigger then it does not mean that if another man eats more, I should eat less. Instead of protesting about the IIT seats being eaten away by the reservations; Why not make the pie BIG by demanding that the government build more IITs and IIMs?

CAn you convince me that indeed the IIT-JEE and CAT select those by “merit” when there are more than 150,000 candidates in the fray?

There are a few more questions and I shall post them here. Please reply if u can

Warm regards

Laks

5 Comments »

  1. I fail to understand the relationship between reservation & homelessnes..unless they too have reservations passed about where they are allowed to spend the night.. on the pavement..under a bridge.. whetever..
    anyway i am digressing here… aren’t these 2 diff topics that need to be dealt with seperately?? How is clubbing these 2 going to serve either purpose??

    ..and about increasingthe pie.. isn’t it already a tax on the exchequer? how is increasing the pie going to solve the issue.. we will just have more vacant seats..this is not a long term viable solution… the solution should be to help the underpriviledged by giving better & free education in government institutes..not increase the seats just to keep everyone happy..

    Also, about merit..i would like to believe that i get into these institutions on merit..if not then how can i place my faith on this institution & do justice to what i am learning??

    Comment by sumanth — May 22, 2006 @ 2:44 am

  2. I perfectly understand ur concerns…

    THe homeless example was a bad one. What I meant was this: The root of the problem, that causes people to be poor and REMAIN poor, reservations etc etc stem from the same cause. These two are the symptoms of a desease called BAD POLITICS, which has to be cured in order for a comprehensive solution to arise.

    Don’t cure the symptom, cure the desease. If u cure the desease then there wont be any symptoms.

    Protesting against reservations is like curing the symptom. As long as the desease is there the symptoms will re-occur. Reservation and affirmative action will lift its head again and again.

    Increasing the seats meant increasing the educational infrastructure. If one does that we can see that the whole system mends itself well. The solution therefore is secular uniform education.

    I have issues about IIT/IIM selection procedure. Which to a large extent is plain luck, if u ask me. WIll rant more on that later

    Comment by laks — May 22, 2006 @ 9:15 am

  3. I appreciate our outrage at the direction our fabled fatherland is going.
    That’s good news coz it tells us that we take India and its debacles
    personal. I’m afraid I haven’t had the patience to read the transcript. I
    must admit I haven’t watched the interview on TV either. But I know one
    thing for sure. What politicians say to the media is hardly of
    significance. What matters is the decisions they make. The justifiability
    (in a socio-economic sense) and the motivation behind political decisions
    are easy to read into, even when the politician doesn’t part his lips for
    a moment.

    Reservations (wherever they might be) as we all know is a powerful weapon
    in vote bank politics. When we know that it is vote bank politics at work,
    does it make a difference as to what the venerable Arjun Singh says about
    it?

    Anyways, let’s for a moment take focus off the statements of Arjun Singh
    and take a look at his actions. Vote bank politics is what is called
    ‘principal agent problem’ in economics. The principal is the stakeholder
    in a country, company or contract. The agent is someone who makes
    decisions on behalf of the principal. In a publicly traded company, these
    terms translate to shareholders and managers. In a democracy they
    translate to the people and the politicians. The sheer number of people in
    a country and their inability to make collective, coherent decisions by
    themselves and be accountable to those decisions gives rise to
    politicians. (The assumption here is political decisions have to be made
    and we can’t live without them. This assumption can be challenged by
    extreme libertarian/anarchist thinking. But let’s stay prgamatic and go
    with the assumption). However we need to realize that the agent
    (politician) is a self intererested individual too at the end of the day.
    There is a conflict of interest to some extent (the extent varies with the
    individual) between the role of the politician and his personal desires
    and motivations. It’s impossible to separate the two personalities,
    however much we may want it as principals (people in a democracy). Looking
    at it from the politician’s perspective, there is hardly any conflict of
    interest between his roles. His office is meant to further his personal
    goals. (I’m not making a statement on individual
    goals are holy or unholy. They are just personal and have a bearing on
    political decisions. Mahatma Gandhi, to the best of my knowledge, was a
    man of holy intentions. Yet, when we made him our agent, he forced
    perpetual appeasement of Muslims on us, for he thought it’s good to be
    secular and had an extremely lopsided view of secularism.)

    Democracy is, in a way, like consumer marketing. It’s all about the
    numbers. The unit of money is here a vote! Different parties and politicians
    target different demographic groups (based on economic status, religion,
    caste, ideology….), much like automobile manufacturers do. Democracy is
    egalitarianism are directly at conflict with each other. If a
    politician/party can impress his core segment of consumers, even at the
    cost of disparaging some other segment, that’s fantastic enough. That
    brings us to the conclusion, a politician is not the representative of
    everyone. A politician is the representative of only those who vote him or
    are likely to do so at least. The incentives of the politician are not
    aligned with the incentives of the entire populace, but those of a niche
    segment of people with the numbers to catapult the politician to the
    office next time. (I’m afraid, men like Arjun Singh, don’t have the
    incentive to capture the office next time either, coz they are guaranteed
    not to live that long!). In fact the interests of the principal are never fully
    aligned with those of the agent. When you got to a doctor, your interest is to
    get yourself cured of your disease, probably at the least cost (if you pay), while
    the doctor’s interest is to charge you the highest fee he can to cure the disease.
    Health insurance is a good way to align these orthogonal incentives.

    I fully understand the frustration against reservation. But, I’m afraid,
    it has become a sacred cow in Indian politics, much like agricultural
    subsidies and perpetual tax holidays for farmers. (You can even compare
    it with the funding for public universities in the US). The politicians
    who introduced reservation first did so to gain a competitive advantage in
    the electoral box office, much like Intel developing a new 64 bit
    microprocessor). The moment they did it, it skewed the whole equation of
    Indian politics. It became a Darwinian place for the politicians and
    parties “adapt to reservation or perish, much like what happens to AMD
    when Intel develops a killer product. It’s interesting to note that the
    good or bad of the reserved castes is nowhere in sight in my argument.
    Well, it’s nowhere in sight even in the minds of politicians either!

    Reservation for OBCs in IITs/IIMs is just a tiny manifestation of the
    colossal problem of reservation itself. The same holds for reservation
    in medical colleges. There are some changes in
    phraseology. That’s about it. I’ve heard people many times say that they
    are ok with reservation but not ok with the way it is being implemented.
    Let’s accept the truth.

    1) It doesn’t matter whether reservation is acceptable to us or not. It’s
    a game of numbers.
    2) Reservation can’t be acceptable to all people and all demographic
    groups no matter how it is phrased. The only thing that has a chance of
    being acceptable to all, at least over time, is meritocracy.

    If we want to fight against reservation, let’s fight about the very idea
    of reservation, rather than the phraseology of it. Abolishing reservation
    can discomfit the classes dubbed backward (I find it to unsulting a
    nomenclature though) for a while, max for a generation. After that, their
    survival instincts will take over and they will end up as competitive as
    the other classes. I dare to prophecy like this, coz, I believe (somewhat
    utopically) that all men are created equal. If there is nothing inferior
    in the genes of the so called backward classes, there is no reason why
    they should be disadvantaged in any way in a meritocratic system. If at
    all they suffer from any disadvantage, it’s because of 56 years of
    mollycoddling by the government. If we have to end reservation, we have to
    stop this mollycoddling some day and give the normal men, unfortunately
    branded backward, a chance to prove their competency. The longer we take
    to stop the mollycoddling, the more painful we make it for the backward
    classes to transition themselves to meritocracy.

    Lastly, I’d again want to emphasize my de-emphasis on IITs/IIMs. Mates,
    I’m afraid, India is a lot bigger than these places. There is no way
    reservation can be acceptable at BMSCE and unacceptable at IIT Delhi.
    There is no way reservation can be acceptable for SC/STs and unacceptable
    for OBCs. (By the way we have silently accepted reservation for SC/STs
    for 56 years. What sin have the OBCs committed to be excluded from the
    coveted title of backwardness? If you are jealous of an unworthy
    reservation candidate going to IIMA and landing the job of a
    hedge fund manager at Goldman Sachs or HSBC, let me
    assure you of something. If the candidate is really unworthy he is not
    going to make it to Goldman. Goldman Sachs is not a govt organization and
    has no obligation to social justice. (Or shall we say injustice?) There is
    every reason for recruitment at Goldman or HSBC to work the free market
    way. In fact the private sector job market is very close to a free market.
    If a reservation candidate makes it to HSBC, you can rest assured that he
    is worthy of it and would have made it anyway with or without reservation.
    While we allay our fears this way, it is very important to note that the
    proposal for reservation in the private sector must be fought with the
    greatest fury. We simply can’t afford to destroy one of the very few
    meritocratic systems we have managed to build. But this is where corruption
    helps our otherwise medieval political landscape orient toward the free
    market. Thanks to corruption and alliance between politics and business
    (holy or unholy), I believe that business leaders will make sure that the
    job market remains a free market, coz it is in the interest of business.

    Comment by Bharath — May 23, 2006 @ 10:17 pm

  4. u know oc candidates put thousands of rupees for an entrance exam and gets a seat,.this is all not possible for sc, st candidates, now they r agaist reservations, mad people, no money from govt sector reaches the poor sector due to corruption,to bring social euality reservation is the best process, forward caste people r really developed, why dont u work hard for the remaining 50 percent, rather than crying for lost other fifty which include all the reserved people……… there is no end for desire for these people……….

    Comment by rohit — September 23, 2006 @ 11:39 am

  5. reservations r must for sc st candidates,really no money comes from top for their improval.its true, they dont have finance,u r right they have no finance for coaching centres and tution fees,practiccallyy getting into good institution requires qualified coaching,which requres lotta money.watever atleast in india reservation is the solution where people r idiots with bribary.it wil look good when the whole system is neat

    Comment by rahul — October 14, 2006 @ 3:59 am

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